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Retired Salt Lake County Sheriff's Captain on why YES on Utah Initiative B

 

    "Drug money has corrupted law enforcement by providing a means whereby money and assets can accrue to police departments without proper controls. I urge your support for Initiative B!"

-- David R. Bishop,
Retired Salt Lake County Sheriff's Captain

 
 
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 4:12 AM
Subject: FW: VERY IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION

Sterling,

I thought you might be interested in this letter I sent to my sister in-law in response to a note she forwarded to me urging the defeat of Initiative B.  As stated in the letter I am a retired Salt Lake County Sheriff's Captain.  I am concerned about the state of affairs and the blindness of the people to what is going on in the world.  Their willingness to allow big church and government to dictate their whole lives is, in my opinion, nothing more than giving up their God given free agency.  Use as you see fit!

David R. Bishop
Pro Deo Et Familia


-----Original Message-----
From: David R. Bishop [mailto:bishopdr@inconnect.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 2:16 PM
To: Aleen; Betty; Curtis; Kim;  Sarah; Pam
Subject: RE: VERY IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION

Pam and All,
 
Thank you for sending the following appeal from the Stansfield's urging the defeat of Initiative B.  While the Stansfield's are, I am sure, well meaning, their appeal is fraught with hyperbole and inaccuracies and is some of the worst political "scare tactic" writing I have seen in recent years.  After nearly thirty years experience in Utah law enforcement, retiring as a Captain in good standing with the Salt Lake County Sheriffs Office, I have a different point of view than  the Stansfield's. 
 
I have seen Utah law enforcement (most often narcotic agents) routinely abuse citizens rights of due process and enjoyment of their private property.  In fact, I have seen dealers released from prosecution after an agreement to forfeit large sums of money that if the case had gone to trial the court most likely would have released the dealer and his money because of poor police work!  
 
 I despise drug dealers but the current system is so badly damaged the very integrity of law enforcement is at stake.  Drug money has corrupted law enforcement by providing a means whereby money and assets can accrue to police departments without proper controls. I urge your support for Initiative B!
 
The current asset forfeiture law allows too much law enforcement discretion in determining when the proceeds of drug dealing can be seized.  When I worked in Metro Narcotics it was not uncommon for agents to seize cars, cash, houses, etc, knowing they didn't have the elements necessary to complete the seizure in court.  They did it as a non judicial punishment to hurt the suspect financially knowing they would be forced to return the property.  This is often done in lieu of a criminal complaint against the suspect.
 
The principle involved is simple.  If the police are allowed to seize property from a suspected drug dealer and hold it for months and even years before it comes to trial then return it before judicial scrutiny, who is safe in their property and effects?  This initiative IS THE RESULT OF BAD FAITH LAW ENFORCEMENT! 
 
I have left the Stansfield's letter attached though I have added my comments where I think it appropriate to correct or reply.  Please read the whole document.
 
Thanks,

David R. Bishop
Pro Deo Et Familia

-----Original Message-----
From: Pam
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:40 AM
To: Sarah Kim; Dave; Curtis; Betty; Aleen
Subject: Fw: VERY IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION

 
----- Original Message -----
Subject: VERY IMPORTANT ELECTION INFORMATION

Dear Friends and Family,
   First of all, this e-mail letter might be a little long, but I
emplore you to PLEASE READ IT.  Normally I would not dream of trying to
influence your actions in political matters.  This year however, I feel
I must ask you to vote No to Initative B.  This is an issue of critical
importance to justice and decency in our state.  A man  named George
Soros, a billionaire from the west coast who has been called the
"Daddy Warbucks of drug legalization", has funded a citizen's initiative
which has been placed on the Utah ballot this year.  This
initiative would severely curtail the effectiveness of virtually every
aspect of criminal interdiction in Utah and would allow Organized
Crime of all descriptions to flourish and prosper in our state. 
[David R. Bishop] 
This assertion is patently false.  In the vernacular "it just ain't so".
 
 The
 initiative is misleadingly titled, The Utah Property Protection Act
and is also known as Initiative B.  The scariest part of this issue is
that the only language appearing on the ballot to describe the
initiative sounds greaton the surface and seems to make the matter a
common sense issue. 
[David R. Bishop] 
If it "seems to make sense" it does!  Common sense and
common meaning of the English language can't be distorted
too much.
 
 Please, DO NOT BE
DECEIVED! As the saying goes, "THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS".  I have
read the entire initiative as it appears in the Utah
Voter Information Pamphlet and as it would be enacted into law if
adopted.  This initiative should be properly titled, The Criminal
Profits
Protection Racket and Organized Crime Sponsorship Initiative.  If you
have any doubts I urge you to read it yourself. 
[David R. Bishop] 
I urge you to read it too!
 
 You can obtain a
copy of the non-partisan pamphlet (which covers all of the Utah election
information on the ballot)  from your local county clerks office or
at:      then click on the
Voter Information Pamphlet icon.  The sponsors of the initiative claim
they
are simply protecting innocent property owners from having their
property unfairly seized or forfeited by the government (police) without

any due process.  If you simply read the ballot language of the
initiative it looks like that is exactly what it does.  However the fact
of the
matter is, we already have all the legal protections we need to that
effect. 
[David R. Bishop] 
These legal protections you claim requires the citizen to pay
for court access to appeal a police action! If the action appealed
is improper is it fair to subject the citizen to the time and money
required to right the wrong?
 
 I'm sure you remember studying the Fourth and Fourteenth
Amendments to the U.S. Constitution which specifically address the
issues of search and seizure and due process rights of all U.S.
Citizens.  Furthermore, The Utah Constitution is nearly identical in
this area.  Utah law is very good in protecting us from any
unreasonable seizure or forfeiture by the government. 
[David R. Bishop] 
There is a difference between seizure and forfeiture.  The biggest
problem is seizure prior to court scrutiny.  You may be guaranteed it
by the constitution but you just might not get it under current law and
police practices.  The assumption that the police always play by the
rules can't be taken for granted.  As you are also aware the Constitution
is also worded in general terms that requires interpretation to establish
proper boundaries.  This interpretation comes from court decisions an
legislated law.
 
 Let's not forget
that Utah was founded by a people who had NO trust in the
government. 
[David R. Bishop] 
Now Utah citizens nearly worship government.  Our founding
leaders would roll over in there graves if they could see us now.
 
 There has NEVER been a single documented case where an
innocent Utahn has had property or assets forfeited by state or
local authorities of Utah without the full due process of the courts.
[David R. Bishop] 
This assertion is improvable on its face.  I have seen money
seized, held in limbo for years and then returned because it
could not be proven that it was the fruits of drug dealing.
I have also seen money abandoned and "forfeited" by agreement to
drop criminal actions.  Here we could parse the definition of
the word "forfeit".  Money that does go before the court and is
"forfeited" has indeed been thru the legal requirement.  My
big concern is the money that doesn't go thru the judicial review.

Currently, Utah law enforcement uses criminal asset forfeitures
prudently and properly as stated in a comprehensive audit performed by
the Utah State Legislative Auditor General and released
November 1999.  Proceeds from criminal asset forfeiture shift the cost
of criminal interdiction from taxpayers to criminals. 
[David R. Bishop] 
Don't think for a minute police departments know how to hide the
improper use of forfeited assets.  Auditors just don't know the inner
working of police departments and neither do the Stansfield's.
 
Law requires money forfeited by drug dealers to be used exclusively in the
so called drug war.  What has developed out of this are "elite" units that
drive the best cars, drink the best whiskey, chase the prettiest women
have the best equipment and thru their arrogance divide the police effort.
 
When I supervised narcotic officers I found widespread abuse of "chit"
(expenditure reports) money that came from forfeitures.  For example an
agent would verify he had spent $600 for operational expenses.  What this really meant
is he used $600 to buy his own lunches, drinks in the bar for himself and
"suspects" or friends.  It is impossible under the current system to insure the integrity of
the police while working in narcotics.
 
There is a great deal of competition for agents to "make the biggest bust" usually
defined by amount of drugs and money seized.  This can have serious consequences.
 
Here is a real example.  I was working with the DEA and knew when and where to
seize a kilo of cocaine thus taking it off of Utah's streets.  A kilogram is a lot of coke.
The DEA wanted me to "let the coke pass through" so we could monitor the dealers and
seize a bigger shipment and more money in the future.  Incredible isn't it!  Instead of arresting
the suspect the DEA wanted to "farm" him for greater future assets.  What so you suppose
would happen to the cocaine that got through?  Yep, It would go right up the noses of our citizens.
I took down the kilo and dealer and earned the animosity of the DEA.
 
If this isn't a corruption of good police work in the interest of forfeiture money I'll eat
my hat!
 
 
 This should be
done more, not less. Moreover, the following disastrous consequences
WILL result if the Initiative passes;

     Criminals who would normally be subject to asset forfeiture could
recover the seized property to be sold or traded for the legal
     expenses of their criminal defense to any related criminal
charges.  (Example, A drug king pin who has no visible means of income
     other than the drug trade, who drives a different Rolls Royce each
day of the week is arrested with all seven cars loaded on a
     Mercedes car-transport truck, all of which are stuffed to the hilt
with drugs of all manner and description.  The cars and the drugs all
     have the drug dealer's DNA and finger prints on them and he was
driving the truck with the car keys hanging from his belt when he
     was arrested.  He gets to sell the cars and the truck so he can
hire Johnny Cockrin, F. Lee Bailey, Allan Derschowitz, Judge
     Whopner, Judge Judy or whomever he would like as his legal defense
council, all now legally funded by his illegal drug profits.)
     Individual police officers and police agencies who make any
forfeiture error would be subject to criminal prosecution even for
     errors made in good faith.
     Criminals could obtain immediate release of seized property if they
can demonstrate that it creates a specified hardship situation. (I
     thought that taking the profit out of crime and creating hardships
for the criminals was the whole point in the first place.)
     The effectiveness of police anti-drug efforts would be almost
non-existent.  Interagency cooperation would be illegal including
     specialized anti-drug units like the Salt Lake Metro Narcotics
unit.  Salt Lake City Police Narcotics Unit and most every other
     narcotics unit in the state would likely be disbanded due to NO
available funds. 
[David R. Bishop] 
This just isn't true.  These units aren't run exclusively of off forfeitures
most of their money (90%) comes from legislative appropriations.  Check
their budgets out and you'll see it's true.  I know from first hand
experience this is just plain scare tactics.
 
 Currently, almost all Utah law enforcement in
     the narcotics field is funded through federal grants and matching
funds related to, and predicated upon asset forfeiture of criminally
     obtained or crime related property and assets.
     Loophole after legal loophole would be opened, like a can of worms,
making it nearly impossible to take any part of a criminals ill
[David R. Bishop] 
If it is legal it isn't a "loophole.  What on earth is meant here
other than "don't confuse me with the facts I know who is guilty".

     gotten profits or property for any reason.
     Even forfeitures or seizures related to poaching wild game which
had been allocated to the State Wildlife Resources Account could
     not be used for that purpose.
     It would be Illegal for ANY forfeiture funds to be allocated to the
following areas which they currently supply; The Wildlife
     Resources Account; The State's General Fund; The Drug Forfeiture
Account; The Financial Fraud and Money Laundering
     Forfeiture Account; The Department of Public Safety for training
peace officers, funding public awareness programs and aiding
     efforts to combat drug trafficing and financial criminal activity;
an agency requesting the funds for drug enforcement; and a local
     government that prosecuted a gambling violation.
[David R. Bishop] 
This is a good idea because law enforcement has neglected other 
strategies and ethical conduct by chasing the narcotic dollar.
 
An example:  Narcotic officers routinely compete to see who can seize the
most expensive car.  If the seizure is forfeited or abandoned the agent seizing
it is allowed to drive it.  The problem here is I have seen dealers targeted
for investigation for the car they drove rather than the damage they did to the community.
 
You see,  cops like to take trophies (anything of value to a criminal) and use
it themselves.  Thus they are able to remind the criminal that they, the police, are really in charge.
It is a primordial uncivilized practice that flourishes in the Police sub-culture.
 
Sponsors of the initiative claim that Utah law enforcement is corrupt
and that there is a profit motive in asset forfeiture for the police.
[David R. Bishop] 
It is the truth!  corruption doesn't necessarily mean everyone
involved is on the take.  It means the systems motivations aren't
always guided by a "moral compass",

That
is an out and out LIE which insults anyone who supports the efforts of
our local police in Utah. Criminal asset forfeiture is a viable and
legitimate tool for law enforcement in combating criminal enterprise.
Criminal asset forfeiture was developed to meet four major
objectives:
[David R. Bishop] 
Asset forfeiture can be one tool in the arsenal to fight crime
but it must be done ACCORDING TO MORAL UNDERSTANDABLE
FAIR RULES. 

   1.To keep criminal resources from being used for future criminal
activities
   2.To discourage criminal activity by removing it's profit motive
   3.To keep "dirty money" from corrupting legitimate businesses
   4.To direct criminal profits into restitution to the community for
it's losses

Initative B would effectively defeat every one of those objectives.

    The EVIL deception of the sponsors attempts to appeal to the noble
motives of Utahns by claiming that all asset forfeiture funds
would go toward the Utah Uniform School fund (after expenses of
course).  If you look carefully, you'll notice there aren't any school
officials backing the initiative, hoping for the promised funds. That's
because they know that the truth is:  there WILL BE NO
FORFEITURE FUNDS AT ALL. 
[David R. Bishop] 
This statement may or may not be accurate but in any case means nothing
at all.  There probably would be fewer forfeitures if the money went to the
Uniform School fund.  The reason why is simple and proves the very corruption
I have talked about.  If the police don't get the money they won't go after it.  Says
something about motives don't you think?
 
 Additionally, the estimated fiscal impact to
the state begins at $1.5 million in lost yearly revenue, a
minimum of $50,000 a year in new state court costs and the loss of $10.6
million per year in federal funds will be sacrificed if Initiative B
passes. There's no time to waste in this, the 11th hour of the
election.  Most Utahns simply don't have the facts on this issue!
PLEASE, VOTE NO! TO INITIATIVE B and spread the word to
every eligible voter you know.  Forward this e-mail to everyone on your
mailing list
who resides in this state. 
[David R. Bishop] 
Thank goodness there are some Utahans who can think for themselves
rather than relying on the police special interest groups for their cue.
 
 The latest polls show support FOR the
Initiative near the
80% range!

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